• Panties@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    No earphone jack again. That’s a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It’s just a small inconvenience

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      3 months ago

      I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced…

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        3 months ago

        After having a phone without a 3.5mm port or a microSD card slot, the top 2 features I want on a phone are a 3.5mm port and a microSD card slot.

        Shame Sony discontinued their Xperia 5 series, even if they were also excessively priced.

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          3 months ago

          What’s the use case for microSD slots on phones these days anyway?

          If it’s (just) to avoid paying Google or Apple storage fees, you can work around that by buying one or several HDDs to keep at home and sync stuff over the local network, possibly even build a server and access your stuff remotely.

          I really don’t understand the need for that much space on the go, though. Are you watching entire series on your phone?

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            3 months ago

            “just”, I think not giving money to Apple or Google anything is a perfectly good reason alone to want expandable storage.

            Phone manufacturers charge a massive premium for more storage on a phone, storage which is then lost if the phone dies. A microSD card can be moved around and they cost little.

            Not everyone has a home server, in fact a very very small percentage do and being able to store their photos and what-not on a microSD card is very valuable. The freedom to add more storage is a good thing to have. Most people can understand an SD card, but not how to setup an entire home server with syncing etc, let alone exposing that to the web to access it anywhere. It also costs money to run, a microSD card doesn’t.

            The only reason we don’t have expandable storage or a 3.5mm port anymore is: money. They want to sell you that cloud service, upcharge you for more internal storage and make you buy their bluetooth earbuds.

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              3 months ago

              I understand all of that and I agree with you. Not wanting to pay monthly storage fees is perfectly reasonable too. I know I did everything to avoid giving Google any money for storage.

              But microSD slots on phones aren’t coming back, and manufacturers are giving you 512GB of internal storage at most, so we need to move on with the times.

              I don’t have a home server (yet) either, but I do have 2 TB disks I use to store all the important stuff I want to save forever. Nothing lives on my phone so I’m fine with 128GB.

              Local syncing can be done just by installing Syncthing or Omnisend, and everything gets transferred through your home Wi-Fi. No need for complicated setups. I mentioned home servers as an example but you certainly don’t need one.

              MicroSD cards also die so I don’t know why you used that as a slight against internal phone storage. You should always have backups.

              Storage is dirt cheap these days, it makes no sense to hinder yourself buying niche phones, often at inflated prices, just for a feature that is easily worked around. In my opinion.

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              3 months ago

              I hope you’re not suggesting that people store all of their photos and movies and stuff on their phones SD card and SD card only……

              SD cards are absurdly volatile and prone to corruption.

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        3 months ago

        It’s really a small inconvenience, but using an adapter would mean I’d be prone to misplace it when I use my headphones on anything else, so it hardly makes anything better

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          3 months ago

          The reason for not using a headphone jack is making it simpler for the manufacturer, one less connector to handle which also limits how slim a phone can be.

          I’m not saying this is good for the consumer, but there are reasons for integrating the functionality into the USB-C port.

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            3 months ago

            These points were all disproved long ago. The jack is a the same thickness as the display.

            The reason is because BT headphones have a much higher margin, and need to be replaced every few years because of the battery (if not already replaced because they were lost or damaged).

            It’s just a dumb cash grab.

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              3 months ago

              This would make sense if the only Bluetooth headphones that worked with the phone were made by the same company, but alas, that’s not how it works.

              The reason they don’t have a headphone jack anymore is because it’s easier to make without it, saves money, has a built in replacement in BT, and people overwhelmingly love BT headphones due to being wireless.

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      3 months ago

      Not having a headphone jack is just a slap in the face from a company whose whole image is supposed to be longevity and eco-friendly.

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        3 months ago

        No one has been using aux cable mobile headphones for the past 10 years. Headphone jack is e-waste at this point. bluetooth audio is great and if you really want to be a boomer you can use the usb C headphones.

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          3 months ago

          Headphone jack is e-waste

          you can use the usb C headphones

          What the absolute fuck are you talking about? What am I supposed to do with the dozen wired headphones I already have? Some of them decades old? Throw them in the garbage? Sounds real eco-friendly.

          bluetooth audio is great

          It is. We had it on phones since before the original iPhone. No one wants to take that away.

          Problem is BT headphones last 2 years then they go in the garbage because the batteries are dead. How eco-friendly is that!?