• rose56@lemmy.zip
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    9 minutes ago

    No, they are not shoving AI through a funnel in our mouths. We are delusional and this must be normal.

  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe
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    I just saw a video on the first music synthesizer. It was built in 1897, and took up the entire basement of a city-black sized building. It was huge and useless, but it worked. Over the next 75 years, technology improved, until it could fit into a suitcase, and be carried around.

    The concept and the tech existed in its basic form, but it wasn’t really ready for deployment yet.

    I see data centers that way. Technically, they can build it, but it still has too many problems to be truly viable yet. There are too many problems with cost, the environment, the corruption, and that’s before considering the impact on society.

    In 50 years, maybe we’ll have the technology and the public policy to do this right, but right now it seems like we are forcing an inferior system to accommodate something that is too advanced for it. We’re getting way ahead of ourselves.

    It’s like body builder who gets on a bike for the first time, and can’t believe how fast his giant muscles can make that bike move, without realizing how out of control it will be at the same time, or how big the crash will be when it finally arrives.

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    33 minutes ago

    The glass is only half full (because AI data centers are stealing all of the good drinking water to cool down their grossly huge “machinery”).

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      I think it went very fast in 4 years and now it plateaued. The only new thing coming out of it is different ways to interact with the same models.

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        33 minutes ago

        I never saw it go anywhere. I mean its cool and interesting from a technological perspective but I’m yet to see any practical application for normal people. It seems to only make shit worse, while destroying the environment and the economy.

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    4 hours ago

    GUYS, please, we just need to give them one more trillion of moneys and an ocean of fresh water and we will have an AGI next month!!!

    Just imagine AI doing all the work for you, while you live a life of leisure as a homeless person!

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    It’s not AI. It’s LLMs that don’t actually think in any meaningful way. They just repeat what they have ingested. And was most mathematically likely.

    That’s why imma pessimist about LLMs doing anything truly revolutionary. They’re another productivity tool to solve problems that shouldn’t exist in the first place and middle-managment loves it for the same fucking reason.

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      What you’re calling AI has somewhat shifted to being called AGI. Either way, the ship has long since set sail and LLMs are lumped under the category of AI. That’s what it’s called. Usage dictates meaning. It’s not an endorsement of the technology. The same way the computer AIs in games are called AI even if they aren’t “real AI.”

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      yup. a roided up eliza isn’t going to synthesize anything new. they can do some tasks, but it’s most certainly not artificial intelligence. and chaining a bunch of eliza’s together isn’t going to make them smarter (claw etc.,), much less make them reliable and useful.

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    6 hours ago

    Yeah, well this isn’t a democracy where people have a say in what happens in our society. Our feudal elite decides what will happen, so stop complaining.

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    13 hours ago

    Ai isn’t being used to better society. To improve lives. It’s being used to drain and make the Epstein class more undeserved money.

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    It is outrageous what is happening with AI right now, I work for a large company that does contracts with the US government specifically for the VA. Not only did they just lay off a bunch of people but they just announced that we being required to use AI in every step of our workflow and they have decided that AI is so great they now have people who have never a day in their life been coders doing development work. The guy whose job it was to create and manage schedules is now being required to use AI to write code and ship it. These AIs are wrong so so so much its crazy that this is the direction we are going in. If you thought things were bad already its about to get way worse.

    I am so deeply sorry to all the vets who will be struggling to get the healthcare that they need because of this. We don’t want to do this either but its clear as day they will fire us and replace us with any warm body regardless if that person has actual experience or not. I am looking to leave but the market is complete dog shit and Its been a struggle to get any kind of response for applications.

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    AI isn’t the problem, it is just an excuse to abuse and gaslight people. If AI didn’t exist, some other card would be played.

    Instead of destroying the looms, we should take them over and make our own products. AI can be incredibly useful and might allow cottage industries and smaller communities to become strong enough to contest the powers above us. The big constraints is just the affordability of local hardware and the development of sufficiently powerful models.

    Things are moving quickly, especially in the local AI space. Two years ago, fitting a 70b was difficult in my hardware, which had 4k context capacity, could take an hour to output, really sucked at calculating numbers, and was censored. Now a 122b can be uncensored, allow for 256k context, takes less than two minutes to output an lengthy response, and is much smarter.

    What I am saying, is that we shouldn’t reject the power of AI. We should use it ourselves, and become the equals of the elite. If we foolishly abandon power, the wealthy will just continue bullying us.

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      No local models will be as good as those offered by big corporations, ever. It’s just not physically possible. Even worse, you don’t seem to understand that running a model is not the issue, training it is.

      Regardless, even if any of this wasn’t true, running LLMs on prem is something that’s only achievable by very few people worldwide. It would take generations for poorer countries to catch up, once again, so this AI race is effectively another attempt at exacerbating inequality, and frankly, it’s giving some strong “war for oil” vibes, people in richer countries happily ignoring what’s going on elsewhere because they are getting nicer things.

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      I agree and would add for others reason here that the Luddites issue was not the looms they destroyed, but the out of control inequality that the government was not addressing. We need to stop blaming AI as a society for job loss and instead get the governments to help with the transition which so far they have largely been inactive on.

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        Job losses are a consequence of AI spending, not productivity increases. This is an economic issue. Everyone with a little money is trying to ride the wave, regardless of the consequences, while big corporations are positioning themselves for long term dominance.

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        What do you mean by help transition society? Help society transition to what exactly?

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      we shouldn’t reject the power of AI. We ould use it ourselves, and become the equals of the elite.

      Sorry but you’re delusional. Your chatbot girlfriend is not going to turn you or anyone else into the equal of Epstein or Elon Musk.

      And I don’t want to be “the equal” of Nazi cockroach pedophiles. That’s a downgrade for me.

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      12 hours ago

      Hmmm…
      How about moderation of lemmy users based on suspected political affiliation according to an LLM?

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        5 hours ago

        How about moderation of lemmy users based on suspected political affiliation according to an LLM?

        link, please?

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          It’s hypothetical, hopefully.

          I also did not save the links.

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        8 hours ago

        Do they use LLM to moderate? Reddit does and it doesn’t have context and it’s how I got permanent ban lol

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          6 hours ago

          One party claimed such but the (AI supporting) accused denied it.

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          reddit does use it, i suspect they are using googles version and or OPEN AI. thats why there has been so many AI generated messages after you get banned. reddit realized this(admin/spez) that its alerting people to its AI usage, they use to shadowban instead now.

          the AI response from a sitewide ban usually goes like this: “Your account has been banned due to violaitons(s), please refer to the TOS”. Also it doesnt tell you what the ban is, so they kept nebelous enough that you cant appeal it.

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        It’s not bad, it’s not good. It requires a lot of hand holding and context.

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        I just tried it to see if it could implement a ping scanner in python. It could, but only if it blocked the gui while running. That kind of thing is an intermediate level school assignment. It’s not even half bad, it’s maybe 15% not bad.

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    Besides medical science, I see no use for AI. People make excuses about being “more accessible” for disabled people, but you could replicate those features without AI.

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      Its the equivalent of using a 80 lb sledge hammer for a penny nail. Swinging wildly and missing 99% of the time, hitting your own shins, but 1% of the time it worked so its definitely good and the right thing to do!

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    I don’t understand the question and I’m guessing people in the survey may not have either. Moving too fast as in using too many physical resources without first focusing on optimization or “OMG the robots are coming for my job!”? These are very different views on technology that could give the same answer.

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          It’s all opinion question. They’re trying to gather opinions and feelings, not measure quantitative data about each person themselves.

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            It’s just a survey writing thing. A good survey can focus on these subjective issues but produce potentially actionable results. This question is akin to asking do you think food is too spicy?