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GrammarPolice@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.ml · 11 months ago

An uphill battle destined to go downhill

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An uphill battle destined to go downhill

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GrammarPolice@lemmy.world to Memes@lemmy.ml · 11 months ago
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  • superkret@feddit.org
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    11 months ago

    Why don’t you just let the Invisible Hand of the Market roll the boulder uphill?

  • Nemo's public admirer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    One must find the anti-communist happy in their prison/punishment for being despotic, because they continue to repeat the same hypothetical thing everytime?

  • OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
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    Yes, being crushed by the weight of your own poor arguments, comprehension, and philosophy is probably quite an accurate way to describe arguing against a communist.

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    The authoritarian left and the liberal left have so little in common that it’s frustrating the term “left” encompasses both.

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      The “authoritarian” left is just the framework of every revolution that actually won. There is a very special kind of Western detached romantic chauvinist “left” that believes only in failed and failing pure leftism and tragedy and is shocked and outraged at what it means to win, to establish defenses, to keep a nation or nations running.

      There is no liberal left. Liberals are the mainstream political and are by definition conservative under global capitalism.

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        Many of those aforementioned nations aren’t exactly still running, though.

        • TheOubliette@lemmy.ml
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          Frequently targeted by the states these precious purity “leftists” live in. And that is not coincidental.

    • davel@lemmy.ml
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      The pure (libertarian) socialists’ ideological anticipations remain untainted by existing practice. They do not explain how the manifold functions of a revolutionary society would be organized, how external attack and internal sabotage would be thwarted, how bureaucracy would be avoided, scarce resources allocated, policy differences settled, priorities set, and production and distribution conducted. Instead, they offer vague statements about how the workers themselves will directly own and control the means of production and will arrive at their own solutions through creative struggle. No surprise then that the pure socialists support every revolution except for the ones that succeed.

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      And the authoritarians try to reconcile this issue by saying we liberals are actually on the right. How wonderful!

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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        To be clear, you were saying Capitalism is left wing. They are using Liberal, as in Libertarian, not as in the actual meaning of Liberal as in Capitalist.

        • GrammarPolice@sh.itjust.works
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          Ain’t gonna argue with you bro

          • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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            Can’t lol

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    Watch out, you’re going to be banned for espousing incorrect doctrine.

    • GrammarPolice@lemmy.worldOP
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      I don’t mind being banned from an ml community tbh

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    You can argue with communists, you can’t argue with fanboys or those who accepted Marx as the one and true Messiah and tell you to read ze book instead of providing any points. But that’s applicable to pretty much every topic (oop bad, for example).

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      I’m happy to hear this coming from someone on ml. At least some of you still possess the ability to reason.

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        Sorry to disappoint, but I’m not exactly into Marxism-Leninism, I’m more of an anarchist myself (the idea of dictatorship, be it of a working class or anyone else, doesn’t sit right with me). And ml was chosen at the time just due to it being hosted by the Lemmy devs

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          The Dictatorship of the Proletariat isn’t a literal dictatorship, but an establishment of Proletarian supremacy over Capital. It’s still democratic.

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            Allrighty, a poor choice of words, then. What I meant was more or less along the lines of “while I like the idea of communism, I think maintaining vertical power structures while trying to make it happen is more or less doomed to result in yet another autocracy”

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