- It’s crazy to me that people allow a corporation with a vested interest in selling all the data it can about you to have cameras and microphones placed all over their homes. - But what about the convenience? - I use Home Assistant as my “main” smart home server then have HomeKit on iOS, macOS connect to it. - You don’t need Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft involved at all if you don’t want to. In fact, with Matter it’s easier than ever to get away from Big Tech. - You do, however, need a degree in software engineering. - Former trucker here. - I’ve been using home assistant for a year. No degree in software engineering here - Stupidly simply to set up. - I used it for several years. It’s incredibly complicated to set up. After the 3rd or 4th time it offed itself randomly or some random update broke it, I gave up and put manual shit back everywhere. Giant waste of time and money. Please don’t send others to the same fate. - Sounds like a skill issue. - I’m just a dumb ol trucker with an Alabama public school education. - I managed to set it up with no issues. - And for the record, it doesn’t do “random” updates unless you tell it to. - So why were you updating anything that was working? Were you using cheap-ass crap that needed a cloud connection? - Don’t blame HA for your choice in gear. - Don’t blame HA for your choice in gear. - 
This has absolutely nothing to do with my gear. 
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I am not “blaming” HA at all. I am blaming the hundreds of people on the internet who constantly insist that everyone should use it, and that it’s “easy to use”. 
 - I managed to set it up with no issues. - Copngratulations. You are clearly significantly more experienced than I am with technology. Along with 95% of the general population. - So why were you updating anything that was working? - Asking me why I would update my install is a strange question. All the same reasons anyone else would update their installs. All the same reasons they continue to create updates. - Were you using cheap-ass crap that needed a cloud connection? - Yes, I was using cheap crap. Mostly from Aqara. Once again, the gear was never the problem. The problem was the HA configuration. - None of it needed any cloud connections other than whatever moron decided to distribute integrations directly through Github. 
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