• Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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    5 days ago

    The “cloud = someone else’s computer” bit got old like 5 minutes after it was first coined and it’s been decades now, so maybe just stop parroting bullshit and read the article?

    Then you’d find out that “someone else’s computer” is not the problem, the jurisdictions is. Aka Microsoft can’t deny US gov requests for foreign entities data.

    Data sovereignty is very much possible even on someone else’s computer, given:

    1. the company legally promises to respect your data sovereignty
    2. you trust the company to uphold their promise
    3. the company resides in a country which can’t legally force them to disclose foreign data
    4. you trust the country

    The issue here is 3. or 4. (not sure which one, didn’t really check, probably both), not 1. or 2. (while I don’t have very high opinions of Microsoft, I don’t think they’d voluntarily break the promise because way too much money from other huge corporations goes their way).

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      4 days ago

      not 1. or 2. (while I don’t have very high opinions of Microsoft, I don’t think they’d voluntarily break the promise because way too much money from other huge corporations goes their way).

      Microsoft can and does promise what the customers want. When the warrant comes - and we’ve seen stupider warrants from the current “administration of never-ending firsts” - they can shrug and say “it’s the law. Sorry.”

      So Microsoft’s promise, given the cloud act, is made while they KNOW they can’t uphold it; and with a team of lawyers looking it over, they know this going in. The US gov can most definitely grab your data from a US company’s servers on Irish soil, for instance, as that’s specifically why the USCloud act was enacted.

      Want to see what Mark has on his mind going into the next NAFTA meeting? NSA no-tell warrant to raid Outlook or AWS-CA1 or azure and it’s all his. Tesla need a leg-up against Rivian? Same. Facebook wants to know what Germany has in store for privacy? Go check all their email.

      OVH at least structured to ensure no warrant can legally compel release of data.