• blargh513@sh.itjust.works
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    4 days ago

    Maybe I’m dumb, but why are we still using steam turbines to turn heat energy into electricity?

    There really isn’t a more efficient process? Going from a heat source, transfer to water, change of state to gas, use hot gas + pressure to turn a mechanical generator/dynamo and THEN you get electricity.

    There are so many failure points, maintenance points, and efficiency losses in that path.

    We really have no means to convert heat energy to electricity? We do it with solar, we dont use sunlight to boil water.

    What is missing here?

    • TWeaK@feddit.uk
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      4 days ago

      There are other methods, but they’re far less efficient.

      Solar panels convert light, not heat, into electricity. Specifically, photons (light) excite electrons in the solar cell, and these excited electrons then move through the solar cell and form a current.

      This isn’t really being used to generate electricity. They’re developing a generator from it, but currently it’s used for purely thermal energy transfer. Basically, the towns have big pipes running through them for communal heating, and these pipes are heated by this thermal energy storage.

      I imagine they’re only talking about electricity generation as an extra revenue stream for their customers who buy these, rather than it being a good solution for storing and generating electricity. The 90% efficiency is much better than combustion generators, but far worse than true electric batteries.

    • Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz
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      3 days ago

      Large scale three phase energy generation is always something rotating in sync with the grid. Easiest way to do that is to spin turbine+generator.

      All nuclear, coal, biomass power plants just heat water to 300-800°C and push it through turbine.

      The thing is that it is really quite robust, and there isn’t any other good solutions to it. They do have quite a lot of loss, but the cooled water after process (still over 100°C) can be used in other industries or district heating improving the efficiency.

      Hydropower just spin the turbine with water flow. Wind directly spins the turbine, which is good for efficiency. Solar panels are still quite inefficient, but because they just use space, they make lot of sense even with poorer efficiency.