It’s not free. Servers and bandwidth cost money.
If you’re not paying, someone is being generous and paying for you.
No I don’t work there. But I have been paying for 2 years. And it’s the only way for the Fediverse to scale. Donations won’t get us to 100M users and beyond.
Not even 100 subscribers.
But I was referring to the Fediverse in general. It won’t ever scale to a real global default social network, on the donations and the kindness of strangers.
If we don’t pay for it, then it’ll be paid for by adds.
Then we’re back to what we’re trying to get away from.
Communick or whatever, just pay. Even if it’s a donation.
It won’t ever scale to a real global default social network, on the donations and the kindness of strangers
The issue is: I don’t think people are bothered enough with commercial social media to the point of paying for an alternative. Think about it, even with the majority of Fedi instances being free to use, not many people stopped using Twitter/Reddit/Instagram. So I think Fedi instances need to be free to use while it’s small to attract new users.
Sure, but if you make it mandatory to pay for anyone to use - it doesn’t grow. And if you’re right about the Fediverse, donations aren’t enough and it also dies.
People make lots of online buisness that grow just fine.
It’s just when people get used to a kind of thing being free, they feel like its impossible or stupid to pay for it. Even when those same people complain about how enshittification ruins everything, they refuse to directly pay instead.
It’s not free. Servers and bandwidth cost money.
If you’re not paying, someone is being generous and paying for you.
No I don’t work there. But I have been paying for 2 years. And it’s the only way for the Fediverse to scale. Donations won’t get us to 100M users and beyond.
With respect to Communick, I doubt you’d get close to 100m subscribers either.
Not even 100 subscribers.
But I was referring to the Fediverse in general. It won’t ever scale to a real global default social network, on the donations and the kindness of strangers.
If we don’t pay for it, then it’ll be paid for by adds.
Then we’re back to what we’re trying to get away from.
Communick or whatever, just pay. Even if it’s a donation.
The issue is: I don’t think people are bothered enough with commercial social media to the point of paying for an alternative. Think about it, even with the majority of Fedi instances being free to use, not many people stopped using Twitter/Reddit/Instagram. So I think Fedi instances need to be free to use while it’s small to attract new users.
Sure, but if you make it mandatory to pay for anyone to use - it doesn’t grow. And if you’re right about the Fediverse, donations aren’t enough and it also dies.
People make lots of online buisness that grow just fine.
It’s just when people get used to a kind of thing being free, they feel like its impossible or stupid to pay for it. Even when those same people complain about how enshittification ruins everything, they refuse to directly pay instead.
I didn’t say it couldn’t grow, just that model becoming huge is very unlikely.
Fair enough. I guess it could grow, but I don’t really have any reason to believe it’ll grow at a rate beyond the Fediverse now.