Say a friend is looking for a new system, and said person is not particularly savvy with technology, what system would you point them toward?

  • leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl
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    20 minutes ago

    i think they should start on the UI they have been exposed to the most.

    they could do more productivity if they know how to navigate around the OS.

  • trongod_requiem0432@lemmy.world
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    Windows. If you do anything work related, you need to be able to use excel and word. It’s still annoying shit, but it works and it’s more stable/easier to use than linux. I have tried both. I say this with poison spitting out of my mouth, because I don’t like the Microsoft AI and forced advertisement shit, but overall, the OS performs better, because desktop linux still has massive problems in 2026.

    The linux community may claim that you can “do anything” on a linux system and “make it your own”, but if you’re not a 24-year-old tech god who can code, it’s unfeasible. I tried several times to go on forums and ask for help regarding certain customization changes. Sometimes I got help, but it was very complicated. Most of the time, nobody answered in those threads or if they did, they blamed me for the “problem” and wrote stuff that didn’t help at all. At some point you gotta go: Okay, this is nice and everything, but I want to play or work at some point and this is not capable of doing at least one of the two. And there is no official tech support to help you out if you need it. When I simply wanted to create 1 bug report, I had to create 4 different accounts on different bug report websites and they all got closed, because “it’s not my department” or - I shit you not - “it’s a serious problem and bug, but I don’t have time to fix it”.

    I tried Linux Mint Cinnamon. The installer was so fucking shit, that it didn’t recogneize the hard drive and therefore - without warning or telling me where it would install - tried to install itself on the very same USB-stick the install files (.iso) were on, erasing the install files in the process and crashing the entire install, while temporarily bricking the fucking system. The promise of “games are working now on Steam/linux due to Proton compatibility overlay” are greatly exaggerated. I tried starting about 15 games and of those only 2 would even start up. If you would post on the discussion forums, other (linux?) users would just respond with “but it works for me”. Well, gosh, thanks you piece of shit, but that doesn’t help me identify or fix the problem. And trying to run Word or Excel? “Oh man, you need a virtual machine just to run that, bro! You can’t run it natively, because xhgaoohofa. Who even needs that, bro? Use LibreOffice, bro! It’s enough, bro!” It’s fucking shit. Get it running, I need to work. And your 500 shitty fonts in LibreOffice won’t convince anyone that you’re a professional. I want fucking Times New Roman and Calibri out of the box, because that’s the standard for my office work, sorry.

    Using Waterfox was a shit show. It’s faster than regular Firefox, but then it proceeded to delete all of my passwords by default every time I closed it, without asking whether I wanted to do that or not beforehand. Then I had to find the fucking hidden option to disable that. I did. But this piece of shit software has a bug. So it ignores that I selected that “hidden” option and continues to delete all my account data and passwords. And linux bros will be like: “Oh, that’s your fault, bro! Our linux programs have no bugs, bro [despite it being listed as an official bug on the fucking GitHub page - but they don’t read that]! You have to use an external password manager, bro! It’s totally safe to insert all your account data into a program from an unknown software developer without back-ups, bro!”

    I can’t even change the fucking window closing button design in linux mint without changing the theme of the entire fucking system. The buttons on there are MacOS-inspired and fucking tiny. I want easy to click big boxes like on Windows.

    I still got that linux laptop, but I rarely use it, because everything is a fucking chore or doesn’t work out of the box. The update manager - now that thing is GOOD! But I just want to set it to do update shit automatically and I can’t. So every time I use this fucking system, I have to spend my time on authorizing those fucking update installs with my password manually.

    Then there is the forking issue. There are 100000000 distros, because the developers are autistic, antisocial shitheads who don’t understand that 1 distro with more integrated customization options would be sufficient and more efficient. So they all want their own distro and create a confusing mess where nobody understands what’s happening anymore except for a few IT guys who can troubleshoot the shit they’re fabricating on a regular intervall. What if I want to work AND game on the same system? I don’t want to choose between linux mint and fucking bazzite. I want the functionality of both in one system. That’s what Windows has managed to do for over 30 years now. Get your shit together. Same for the support. When I have a problem with the Linux Mint install launcher, I have to be redirected from Linux Mint support to fucking Ubuntu support, because the launcher is actually fucking Ubuntu and then Ubuntu redirects me to a special Ubuntu launcher support site where I have to file another report and then the developers/maintainers there redirect me to their personal GitHub page to file another report with another entirely different bug report form there only to tell me afterwards that s/he has no time to fix it, even though the bug is legit and then CLOSES the bug report. Excuse me, but get 1 (!) support website please and redirect reports INTERNALLY. I will NEVER file a bug report for a linux system again, that I can tell you. Go FUCK yourselves, linux mint developers!

    And I don’t understand the fucking hype of all these idiots around Steam. Steam is not open-source, it’s not free (you have to buy the games with a big fee % for Valve). It’s a multi-billion dollar for-profit, closed-system, privately owned company that has said “fuck you” to everyone who wanted Half Life 3 or the next Left 4 Dead for years. Despite having BILLIONS of USD at their disposal to make it happen. Don’t get me started on fucking kid gambling with loot boxes and microtransactions in Counter Strike etc. Fuck these idiots! The dominant gaming market and launcher should be free, open source, non-profit and owned by everyone. I don’t want to finance another yacht for Gaben. I want to finance more games, compatibility updates, optimized hardware drivers, remasters of retro games and so on.

    To be honest, I hate a lot of todays technology industry and I have good fucking reasons for it. Computers were made to make our lives easier, but all they have managed to do is to make many people more socially isolated and working on them more of a chore than the original fucking paper work. Prove of that? You’re currently reading a piece of fucking text of a person who you don’t know instead of talking to a friend in person. Probably in a darkened room cave so that the light doesn’t interfere with the screen brightness.

  • Wispy2891@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Fedora, now it’s shockingly easy to use.

    I silently replaced windows in the home PC and it took 2 months for the tech illiterate SO to say “WTF, why you put Apple on this PC, I thought you hated them” (put same username/password, same wallpaper, even Microsoft Edge)

    At work I was shocked that I could login directly as user@windows.domain without any extra configuration. Plain vanilla fresh install, typed my active directory account for laughs, it worked 😲

    Also at work I was shocked to see that I could just run the exe of the windows-only accounting software and everything works. I even installed LibreOffice in wine, lol (the accounting software needs soffice.exe for generating spreadsheets). I could even install foxit reader for windows 😂 (sorry, all the Linux PDF readers completely suck when printing, I need previews and booklet and all the extra features)

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      47 minutes ago

      Wait a damn second, Fedora sometimes can allow you to just run a windows exe program by default???

      How does it compare to Mint in your experience?

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    7 hours ago

    Macos > Ubuntu / Fedora

    As I hate Apple, after years of experience I can say that macos is the simplest and the most stable os.

    With linux I had different issues, starting from apps that are not supported, ending with issues with drivers…

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    13 hours ago

    MacOS.

    I hate Apple, and I do not like how they operate. But I cannot deny how user friendly their OS is, how affordable their machines are (Mac mini) and how even those who do not know how to use a PC, can pick them up and use them.

    Linux Mint is my second choice

    Only Linux which feels like a normal PC, and 99% of features can be installed via UI. There are holes, and I feel an immutable OS would fill this niche better, but for now this is my number 2.

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      8 hours ago

      Ya, I do like my Mac, the track pad is phenomenal as well.

      But fuck everything about their prices, or at least the laptop prices…

      If I didn’t need a mac for work (iOS development), I’d probably try a linux laptop next.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    16 hours ago

    Linux. Hands down. Always.

    New user? Try Kubuntu Linux

    Power user? Eh, you can try anything but I’m still with Kubuntu because Ubuntu with KDE just works so damned nice

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    12 hours ago

    Idk if I’d even recommend anything anymore. Microsoft shit is easier but more likely to just nuke itself or destroy your data. MacOS is stable and user friendly but prohibitively expensive. Linux is generally great, but requires a level of teach savvy that most people are actively afraid of. I’m so tired.

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      8 hours ago

      i wouldn’t even say mac hardware is prohibitively expensive these days given how damn long it lasts

      i can count on 1 hand the number of laptops i’ve used as my primary device for > 2 years and they’re all macs… current is going on 5 years and is only now looking like i might need a spec bump in the next 2

  • fum@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Whatever Linux is being sold pre-installed on a machine within their budget.

    Told my dad to buy a Dell laptop with Ubuntu preinstalled after his last Windows laptop died. He’s been fine with that for the last 5 years.

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      46 minutes ago

      Dad is on Mint as well

      It’s just that I couldn’t install Whatsapp on it for calls… Which may be a huge win if iti gets him to switch to Signal lol

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    17 hours ago

    Are they looking to become savvy? Linux. Are they looking to game? Steamdeck, or if they can wait a while, Steam Machine. Are they just wanting a device to check emails and watch *ahem* ‘internet videos?’ Android phone.

    Any other option will be more money for less value.

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    21 hours ago

    Debian Linux

    I have installed it for several computer illiterate old ladies. They swear by it.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    13 hours ago

    MacOS (less with each release). One of the Linux distros that aims to minimize the “Linux” experience for new users, like Mint. There are others that are also good for new users who don’t care what’s underneath. I’ll let others suggest them as I don’t keep track of them all.

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    22 hours ago

    Apple for sure. I dislike them personally, but their OS has a great UI/UX and is very user friendly. And their stuff just works together really seamlessly.

    But, if all they do is browse the Internet, Linux is also a good option as long as you’re ready to set it up for them and answer questions. I switched my 75yo mom to Mint when Win10 hit EoL and she hasn’t had an issue.