• Feathercrown@lemmy.world
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    “Womp womp” - Some republican, mocking the suffering of others on fox news

    I think the above quote sums up the world’s reaction pretty nicely

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    I pray for the safety of the Luigi’s in our world. They gave us hope that we lost in politicians.

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    Beyond even that, they praise inviting people to negotiate and then murdering those negotiators.

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    Where are these liberals? I’m only seeing celebrations or “I don’t condone but in this case I don’t care either” for the fascist getting shot.

    Or were you hearing them condemn gun violence for the school shooting that also occurred today?

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          3 democrat politicians who follow the party line on US imperialism, “condemning hamas” and supporting Israel’s wars.

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                Thank you for finding this quote. It’s certainly not a great look. He does specifically condemn the action of killing of civilians. Which is lingo similar to how Europe recently condemned Israeli bombings on Qatar, while not condemning Israel itself but it’s not a great look.

                He has another one where he says he supports Israel’s right to exist, but not as a Jewish state, but as a state with equal rights for everyone. Which in practice means that he doesn’t believe Israel has the right to exist, but it’s a great way to answer the question in a way that satisfies libs.

                That said, I don’t think it’s possible to do anything about the October 7 libs without doing any of this kind of dodgy answering.

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                  It’s a simple matter of fact that many if not most of us, at least in NA have started with the default lib programming. There clearly is a path through deprogramming that creates likeminded people who then support people like Zohran. Playing the word gymnastics like Mamdani does enables libs to take on some of these ideas instead of rejecting all of them because of one thought-terminating slogan. That puts them on the deprogramming path. I don’t think this contradicts any long-term leftist goals.

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                That’s just nuance and working with the public. He’s literally pro-palestinian. I don’t understand why we need to paint everybody as an enemy because, what, they haven’t asked for the expulsion of every last Israeli?

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                  It’s because ml’s aren’t trying to strategically win power and influence within the current system – they want to tear it down completely. Mamdani and Trump are just 2 parts of the same whole to them.

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                  I don’t think we’re doing that. We can critique our own and we should. We should do a lot more of this before a candidate is locked in for an election. That doesn’t mean we don’t vote for those candidates at the election. I think almost anyone here who lives in NYC would vote for Zohran.

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                He has to. Otherwise he’s got no path to office. That said the status quo has moved enough to make criticizing Israel a net positive among D electorate.

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                  This actually just means parliamentarism/electoralism is a sham, workarounds to it or entryism be damned.

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                Israel is by definition not a state with equal rights. This is a great way to answer the question to statisfy libs while also showing the issue with Israel: their Apartheid. Which is the raison d’etre of Israel as a Jewish ethnostate. Adding the equal rights part means believing Israel doesn’t have a right to exist.

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                  Liberal Zionism is still Zionism and so is the two-state solution proposed by the West, no matter how you put it. This is still clear-as-day support for a Euroanglo-Zionazi state. Please don’t fall for prophetic entryism.

                  For Palestinians, to be subjected to almost a century of Lebensraum from Europeans and now recently others from other Western nations and then be told “Hey! Maybe we should live together in harmony with rainbows and sunshine to share!” is degrading beyond comprehension. Adding “with equal rights” means jack squat.

                  Not a single inch for Euroanglo-Zionazis. They know exactly where they come from.

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        in America

        Yeah they just mean it’s not okay here so it’s still fine for them to be okay with it in other countries.

        Fuck that’s depressing it’s most likely their actual reasoning. Or that they just don’t care

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        Yeah but to complete the square, there has to be praise for the murder of Palestinian politicians. I assume that’s about the strike in Doha and a brief search only shows them “being concerned” over it, not praising it. Of course it’s a meme so there’s no point litigating the accuracy to the T. I’m sure things aren’t the same behind closed doors. But if there’s a src for the lib praising Palestinian politicians’ deaths that would be helpful.

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          They consistently demonize the Houthis, Hamas, and anyone fighting for their lives against Israel. Only a single democrat (Omar) didn’t give standing ovations to Netanyahu when he visited congress earlier this year.

          Someone else I’m sure has collected plenty of these.

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            Ah yeah, if you cast a wider timeline net then there’s definitely been praise for killing Palestinian politicians.

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    This would be more meaningful if the type of person posting it wasn’t doing the exact same thing with the parties reversed. Why is it so terrifying for people to have a modicum of compassion and empathy for all sentient life, or if not that at least human life. Having compassion and empathy is not endorsement, is not supporting their cause, does not reduce you.

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      I celebrate Kirk’s murder precisely because I have empathy. I am fully aware of the harm Kirk and his ilk have caused. How many women were sexually assaulted because their rapists were motivated by Kirk? How many minorities were discriminated against or had hate crimes perpetrated against them because of Charlie ‘I Think Empathy Isn’t Real’ Kirk? It is impossible to have empathy for people and not hate Kirk’s guts.