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    5 days ago

    That’s the Dawkins version of a meme, not an Internet meme. An internet meme is typically defined differently:

    an amusing or interesting item (such as a captioned picture or video) or genre of items that is spread widely online especially through social media

    An internet meme is a unique form of expression that relies on images and other types of text-based media to create jokes or commentary about specific events.

    a humorous image, video, piece of text, or GIF that is spread across the internet, typically on social media, and often with slight variations.

    By some definitions some viral videos would count, if they’re viral because they’re funny. By those definitions, if they’re viral because they’re critical news like the George Floyd murder, they’re not memes because they’re not humorous.

    Personally, I don’t think it’s an internet meme unless:

    1. It’s intended to be funny or at least wryly amusing. So, serious news items or shocking things don’t count.
    2. It is remixed. A funny viral video isn’t a meme until people start remixing it.

    What made image macros into internet memes was people taking the same macro and using different text. Otherwise it’s just a viral item of internet context.

    My definition is not necessarily “right”, but I like it.

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      All three definitions you provided are well within Dawkins’ definition.

      By some definitions some viral videos would count, if they’re viral because they’re funny. By those definitions, if they’re viral because they’re critical news like the George Floyd murder, they’re not memes because they’re not humorous.

      The reason for their spread is irrelevant. The fact that it’s “a piece of culture that is spreading” is what makes it a meme.

      What made image macros into internet memes was people taking the same macro and using different text

      Again, this is well within the definition of “meme”.

      My definition is not necessarily “right”, but I like it.

      You’re arguing that “Internet meme” should be it’s own thing, when it fits perfectly well within the overarching definition of “meme”.

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        You’re arguing that “Internet meme” should be it’s own thing, when it fits perfectly well within the overarching definition of “meme”.

        Yes, just like “motorcycle” fits perfectly well within the overarching definition of “vehicle” but it’s still useful to have a more specific term.

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