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      Not every jew is a zionist. Don’t conflate the two. Israel does not have a right to exist, and jews do.

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        3 months ago

        You want to force Jews into the diaspora again? Brilliant move, that worked so well for them the first time around. /s

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          You want to force Jews into the diaspora again?

          So, the only alternative to diaspora is an apartheid ethnostate in occupied land?

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            of course not. the alternative should be a free and open society where Jews are but one of many groups.

            Israel is currently sliding away from this - sadly - but it still has the potential

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              Israel is currently sliding away from this

              It’s not. It’s the very conception of the state of Israel. It was funded through the Naqba, a forcible relocation of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. The very idea of the modern state of Israel is genocidal and an apartheid ethnostate

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                3 months ago

                would you also claim the same for the United States? Their original sin is even darker, as most natives did not move away but simply died.

                Iriginal sin is not necessarily destiny.

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                  3 months ago

                  Hitler famously inspired his Lebensraum theory in the US example and the Manifest Destiny doctrine. The US successfully genocided almost the entirety of native Americans. So yes, I would make a similar claim for the USA

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    3 months ago

    Except Germany keeps delivering weapons to Israel, gives them diplomatic and political coverage, and apparently even has planes in the air to support Israeli fighter jets in their attacks on Iran.

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      you think WW3 is starting because of Israel? Can I also get under the rock your been living under, must be nice there.

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        Israel is not only at the very center of the world (look at maps: it’s very much the geographic center. That’s why we call it middle east.)

        it’s also reckless and like a dying star, a supernova. it blows up without regards to casualties. it is a very dangerous situation that we’re in indeed.

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          3 months ago

          I dont see the potential for global conflict.

          Israel and Iran have been trading blows for decades now. Some direct, many indirect. It’s a regional conflict, and regional it will remain.

          Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.

          (That being said, is Netanyahu a deplorable asshat? Absolutely yes – but for different reasons)