did they change this because i was pretty sure you can create a google account with your normal email and then add gmail on later.
This just seems completely unimportant compared to them locking down Android.
And compared to the genocide in Myanmar it’s wholly unimportant! Let’s focus on a single thing at a time, that’s the path to progress!
While I don’t think we can or should focus on a single thing, that doesn’t mean we should focus on everything.
We can focus on more than one thing, but we can’t focus on infinite things. We don’t have infinite attention.
Investigating one thing does take away resources from being able to do other things.
There should be a name for this fallacy. I guess people struggle with it because it’s one of those things where the middle is right.
That only applies to people with gapps installed.
If you follow best practice of reinstalling the OS after you buy a device, that “lock down” does nothing for you
so basically everyone. I don’t know where have I read it but its true: after this you won’t be able to help your relatives and friends (when they ask) to use apps from fdroid that won’t just blatantly steal their data and usage habits. not everybody is ready to have their OS replaced, it comes with loss of functionality thanks to fucking google integrity checking, and because lineage os often has significantly less features than the original system, but in lots and lots of cases: their phone is not even supported by a reputable custom rom, or any
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A German court has ruled that Google’s practice of requiring users to use Gmail addresses for their accounts is unlawful. The lawsuit was brought by the parent company of GMX and Web.de.
The Regional Court of Mainz delivered a partial legal victory for the German email provider GMX/Web.de against the US tech giant, prohibiting Google from favoring its own Gmail service when users set up an Android smartphone and create a Google account. A Google account is required, for example, to access the Google Play app store or to log in to YouTube. According to the court, for a long time, setting up such an account required a Gmail address, while email addresses from GMX.de and Web.de could not be used or only with difficulty—putting Google’s competitors at a disadvantage.
Parent company 1&1 must bear part of the court costs
However, the court dismissed parts of the lawsuit, meaning 1&1, as the parent company of GMX/Web.de and the plaintiff in the case, must cover three-quarters of the procedural costs. The ruling is not yet final, and the case is expected to proceed to the next instance. Google has already filed an appeal.Login now also possible with phone number
Google has already changed the behavior criticized in the lawsuit: Since May, users have been able to provide just a phone number during setup. However, Google still automatically creates a Gmail address—which, according to the court, is insufficient.In its lawsuit, 1&1 referred to the new EU Digital Markets Act (DMA), which has been in force since 2024 and strengthens the rights of consumers and smaller companies against tech giants like Apple or Google. The underlying assumption is that major platform operators are so powerful that they could cement their market position and must therefore treat their own services and those of competitors equally.
1&1: EU regulations are taking effect
1&1 expressed satisfaction with the ruling. “This is a good sign for competition and consumer choice,” said Michael Hagenau, managing director of GMX and Web.de. Millions of users could now consciously choose a European provider with strict data protection instead of Gmail. He called it “a tangible signal for digital sovereignty.”Google welcomed the fact that most of the claims were rejected, but expressed concern that the decision undermines the DMA’s goal of harmonizing rules. “We are concerned that the ruling undermines the DMA’s efforts to harmonize regulations,” the American company stated.
Wait, so you can create a google account just with a phone number now in the EU? It’s a step forward, but still… requiring Google service and Google accounts to use government apps is still crap.
How is requiring a phone number a good thing?
Better doesn’t mean good. Don’t mix them up.
But it’s neither good nor better, it’s worse.
Adding more options to be less identifiable is “worse”. I completely see your logic 👍
Phone numbers are more identifiable. They’re more scarce and harder to get anonymous than an email address.
No, they are not. Not every country requires KYC to get a SIM card. They can be purchased in many places with cash, sometimes even with default generic credentials.
Also if you add the space of emails to the space of phone numbers, it increases the space of possible sources for account creation, which logically dilutes the space.
And just to remind you, the article is about creating accounts required to use mobile phones with Google accounts. Making it possible to use your Google phone with just your phone number instead of requiring an additional email makes it specifically less identifiable.