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Oh noez, now you’ll have to switch to Bluetooth.
Why would anyone ever spend more than a few bucks on a toothbrush? Just go to the store and find the cheapest ones. There’s only one thing in my house that can vibrate and it certainly doesn’t go in my mouth. . . . . . . . . . What did you think I was talking about? I meant my phone you pervert.
I’ve got an ultrasonic one, no app needed. It detects when you apply too much force, and if you do use the app - again, not needed - it can track your brushing habits and tell you when you’re missing spots. I would not have bought it without my employee discount, though. I think the $30 ultrasonic ones with no seriously fancy stuff are still good, though.
I can only speak for myself, but I got an electric toothbrush in order to clean my mouth better.
It’s actually a common misconception that vibrating toothbrushes clean your mouth better than manual ones. Just takes a bit of extra effort and time to do it manually. Brushing twice daily for two minutes, covering all tooth surfaces with gentle, short strokes or a proper scrub/polish motion, and reaching along the gumline, is what matters most. Most people fall short on time and technique so that’s why dentists will reccomend the electric ones. They do make it easier to get the job done, but there’s nothing inherently worse about a manual brush.
I mean ok but no… https://www.dentalhealth.org/electric-vs-manual-toothbrushes-plaque-and-gingivitis-control
I think there are eight studies listed there that disagree with you.
There is a difference between what I was talking about and what these studies are talking about. They are studying the actual effects on users. Because electric toothbrushes are able to clean teeth more quickly and with less effort people generally have better outcomes with them overall. What I was pointing out is that this is not the same thing as a “better brush”. Clean teeth are clean teeth. Doesn’t matter how you get there, and a manual brush is perfectly capable of cleaning your teeth. It’s just that your supposed to actually brush for 2 whole minutes and use the proper technique which most people don’t do. An electric brush compensates for this which is what the improvements seen in those studies is showing. This is what I meant by the common misconception. People see that generally electric toothbrushes cause better outcomes and assume the overall ability to clean must be better, but if used properly a manual toothbrush gets the job done too.
I can’t speak to all the studies on there because I didn’t read them all, but I’m pretty sure they compared 2 mins with the electric brush to 2 min with manual.
People see that generally electric toothbrushes cause better outcomes and assume the overall ability to clean must be better
Because it’s literally true. Better outcomes means better ability to clean. That’s how it works.
Manual toothbrushes obviously can get the job done, but electric does it better
Wait you don’t have a washing machine
Does your washing machine vibrate???
During spin cycle absolutely
it must be those smart-lines of oral-b that are very expensive, like 100-200$+ the ones less than 70 wont do this. i heard the bougie ones are quite flimsy and prone to breaking, because theres more complicated parts and now electronics.
Can confirm! I bought one on sale which never connected to Bluetooth on my Samsung android (though documentation suggested it should.) connected to partners iPhone though. Anyway I used for less than 3 months before it stopped charging. I then went back to using the £25 I’d had for many years.
i was looking online reviews when i was looking for electric toothbrush, almost everyone that has smart-features including off brand tend to be defective, one way or another. its either the blue tooth, the sensor, it stops rotating, charging,etc. replacement heads are expensive if you are buying the OFFICIAL heads. i bought ones from ironically germany( alittle big for the american version of the actual toothbrush, it works and it last longer too as a replacement, apparently only the american ones get yellow and shorter before 3 months. while the ones from the official german versions dont. the americans have to be replaced every 3months.
the one i bought was the oralb1000 series, it was 39.99usd at the time(i noticed this color was noticbally cheaper both instore too, shouldve gotten another one jus tin case.) they sell the other colors which was more expensive and never on sale for some reason.
but why one needs a smart toothbrush that requires an account in the first place? does it have a loudspeaker so you can listen to some Cannibal Corpse on Qobuz while brushing your teeth?
Philip’s Sonicare line uses an app to track your brushing habits and can tell you when you’re underbrushing spots. It’s almost definitely also spyware, though, like all major corpo apps.
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Oh ffs this is ridiculous. Wtf does a toothbrush need internet?
too collect data, and make it look like you are buying a bougie product, because it has all these features. some off-brand ones that are way cheaper has the same thing already.
you usually dont encounter these ones unless you are paying alot for it, like 80-200$+ for the expensive lines of oral-b.
To collect data for advertisers and health officials. To add a subscription to turning on your tooth brush.
To adequately measure your brushing habits and tell you which teeth you are missing or not brushing enough?
An electronic brush coule do this locally, without internet or account
Ahhhhh I see your point
And that’s what you get for buying an internet toothbrush.
indeed all the reviews i saw about these both brand name ones and off brands are defective one way or another.
I got a Phillips Sonicare a few years back and it’s pretty nice.
Wouldn’t even know how to begin to connect the thing to a computer or the internet. Certainly never had to log into anything.
Yeah, this is kind of on you.
If you spend your money on a “smart” toothbrush, expect it to do “smart” stuff.
they probably dont look all those reviews online about these, i got curious and most of them said they stopped working, or some part of the smart features becomes defective within a year.
anything above oral-b 1500 series, you are asking for it. 1500 and below you are just getting the standard rotating toothbrush with no smart gimmicks, and they last alot longer too. plus, oral-b makes thier money from the toothbrush heads, its every 3 months replacements, but the official replacements heads are expensive. if you are buying the IO series you will have to get those.
I have a “smart” toothbrush, I have never logged into it or connected to to anything but the charging block. It still has multiple modes and buzzes when I’ve been brushing a quadrant for 30 seconds.
Same, there’s also an unofficial home assistant integration for mine, so I get my brush tracking without ever using the official app.
So does my non-internet-connectable dumb electric toothbrush
And soon with AI, smart things will get even smarter.
That’s kinda on you, dude. Nothing is stopping you from subscribing to toothbrush premium with mouth-print authentication. Before you start whining, no, you don’t actually have to listen to the two minutes of ads for sour candy, transmitted directly through your jaw bones. You can always upgrade to add-free. It’s only like $10 per month.
i bought an off brand sonic toothbrush for under 15(with discount from tootheory, amazon) unfortunately they dont sell these anymore. apparently it has all the features of a more expensive sonicare that is usually around 80-100$.
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Same thing with only one tooth left
Dude, you must have just void someone’s patent idea xD
LOL, I thought this was a joke.
I gave up on electric toothbrushes. My dentist recommended them, I used them, got two infections in six months where I had no issues for years. Returned to normal brushes three years ago, no more infections.
that doesnt seem like the cause, my teeth were really way cleaner and efficiently brushed than with a manual. with a manual you can definitely go too hard on the enamel if you are aggressive. electrics now have sensors that detect pressure. are rinsing the brush heads before and after using them? or you using it way after 3-4 months? or you using it on your gums or too much.
They are definitely, without a question, much more effective at cleaning your teeth. My guess is coincidence vs. you had a poor technique when it came to using them
Or bought a bad model, some electric toothbrushes just have a vibrating handle and that doesn’t transfer much to actual brushing benefit. I do notice the ones where the brush actually spins or oscillates make a huge difference.
i noticed the offbrand ones claiming very high rpm, are likely not true, or just oscillates. also sonic and rotating are somewhat different too. some off-brand sonic ones are good too, epsecially the ones where you can set the intensity.
not all electric brushes are made equal. my dad’s best friend is an oral surgeon so i know a fair bit about teef
“Brushing experience”. Every morning is an adventure.
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Internet of things was a mistake
Nah.
Like it often tends to be, the mistake wasn’t the concept itself, but rather letting some of the worst and least qualified people get away with any fuckery they want in the neverending quest for short term profits and shareholder dividends.
The IOT could DEFINITELY be a vehicle for actual convenience with no drawbacks for consumers if we would just have and enforce laws and regulations favoring their experience over the profits of misery-makers.
i agree with your philosophy bit i still think the instability thay comes from the added complexity always outweighs the use
